Dont Mind Them They are Just Proving Hotelling’s Law

I was with some friend earlier in the night and we drove to Apple Bees by going on the 2nd ring road. Since I was driving I decided to bust out Connie and do some war driving. I didn’t find anything on that road expect RoRo.

I found RoRo on the traffic light between Qadsia and Yarmouk Mansouriya. I didn’t have time to connect to it since the light turned green. Later when we reached the 2nd Ring and Istiqlal Highway I found RoRo again and with a very strong signal. So I connected and found it was a computer to computer connection. It just confused me a signal that strong came was from Qadsia to Dasman. I think it could have been another laptop or even a PDA that was in the car next to me. I am going to be going on that road again later to see if I can find it.
I was with some friend earlier in the night and we drove to Apple Bees by going on the 2nd ring road. Since I was driving I decided to bust out Connie and do some war driving. I didn’t find anything on that road expect RoRo.

I found RoRo on the traffic light between Qadsia and Yarmouk Mansouriya. I didn’t have time to connect to it since the light turned green. Later when we reached the 2nd Ring and Istiqlal Highway I found RoRo again and with a very strong signal. So I connected and found it was a computer to computer connection. It just confused me a signal that strong came was from Qadsia to Dasman. I think it could have been another laptop or even a PDA that was in the car next to me. I am going to be going on that road again later to see if I can find it.
I saw the movie Gacy about the serial killer John Wayne Gacy. This movie is indie and shows it in the filming. I think it was a intentional to make it feel that it was set in the 70s.

Basically the movie gives a different view of Gacy showing his life and the events that led to his capture. The movie wasn’t slow, hospital and not boring it was just eh. It was missing something the actors played their roles very well especially Mark Holton as Gacy. I think the direction and maybe the script needed some work. There was no suspense or anticipation. I really didn’t care either way if he killed anyone else or that he was going to get captured.

I think the movie’s focus was how teenage boys who get beaten by their dad or can’t communicate with their parents either become gay or serial killers. Cause the first scene was a teenage Gacy getting beaten up by his father on a fishing trip,. Then later in the movie you see him having heart to heart talks with teenage boys telling them to talk with their dads and that their parents love them and during these scenes you actually see him some what emotional.

So if you are into serial killers watch it, if you aren’t dont bother its not worth it.
I was with some friend earlier in the night and we drove to Apple Bees by going on the 2nd ring road. Since I was driving I decided to bust out Connie and do some war driving. I didn’t find anything on that road expect RoRo.

I found RoRo on the traffic light between Qadsia and Yarmouk Mansouriya. I didn’t have time to connect to it since the light turned green. Later when we reached the 2nd Ring and Istiqlal Highway I found RoRo again and with a very strong signal. So I connected and found it was a computer to computer connection. It just confused me a signal that strong came was from Qadsia to Dasman. I think it could have been another laptop or even a PDA that was in the car next to me. I am going to be going on that road again later to see if I can find it.
I saw the movie Gacy about the serial killer John Wayne Gacy. This movie is indie and shows it in the filming. I think it was a intentional to make it feel that it was set in the 70s.

Basically the movie gives a different view of Gacy showing his life and the events that led to his capture. The movie wasn’t slow, hospital and not boring it was just eh. It was missing something the actors played their roles very well especially Mark Holton as Gacy. I think the direction and maybe the script needed some work. There was no suspense or anticipation. I really didn’t care either way if he killed anyone else or that he was going to get captured.

I think the movie’s focus was how teenage boys who get beaten by their dad or can’t communicate with their parents either become gay or serial killers. Cause the first scene was a teenage Gacy getting beaten up by his father on a fishing trip,. Then later in the movie you see him having heart to heart talks with teenage boys telling them to talk with their dads and that their parents love them and during these scenes you actually see him some what emotional.

So if you are into serial killers watch it, if you aren’t dont bother its not worth it.
I saw the movie Gacy about the serial killer John Wayne Gacy. This movie is indie and shows it in the filming. I think it was a intentional to make it feel that it was set in the 70s.

Basically the movie gives a different view of Gacy showing his life and the events that led to his capture. The movie wasn’t slow, hospital and not boring it was just eh. It was missing something the actors played their roles very well especially Mark Holton as Gacy. I think the direction and maybe the script needed some work. There was no suspense or anticipation. I really didn’t care either way if he killed anyone else or that he was going to get captured.

I think the movie’s focus was how teenage boys who get beaten by their dad or can’t communicate with their parents either become gay or serial killers. Cause the first scene was a teenage Gacy getting beaten up by his father on a fishing trip,. Then later in the movie you see him having heart to heart talks with teenage boys telling them to talk with their dads and that their parents love them and during these scenes you actually see him some what emotional.

So if you are into serial killers watch it, if you aren’t dont bother its not worth it.
MSNBC have an article
How to get that perfect shave. Telling people the way to shave. It was pretty ok, sickness
nothign new or amsuing, but what got to me is how much people in America pay for a barber shave is from $50-$100. Thats insane!

I myself only shave at the barbers, I dont have a shaving kit at home, (which is why sometimes I have a good growth of hair cause I dont have time to go get a shave) and just pay from 500fils to 1Kd.

I know of other barbers that will give you the full treatment of massage, hair removal from ears and cheak bones and even a facail scrub and all for 5kd.

Americans must have forgotten how to pamper themselves and just allowed themselves to get ripped of when they do.
I was with some friend earlier in the night and we drove to Apple Bees by going on the 2nd ring road. Since I was driving I decided to bust out Connie and do some war driving. I didn’t find anything on that road expect RoRo.

I found RoRo on the traffic light between Qadsia and Yarmouk Mansouriya. I didn’t have time to connect to it since the light turned green. Later when we reached the 2nd Ring and Istiqlal Highway I found RoRo again and with a very strong signal. So I connected and found it was a computer to computer connection. It just confused me a signal that strong came was from Qadsia to Dasman. I think it could have been another laptop or even a PDA that was in the car next to me. I am going to be going on that road again later to see if I can find it.
I saw the movie Gacy about the serial killer John Wayne Gacy. This movie is indie and shows it in the filming. I think it was a intentional to make it feel that it was set in the 70s.

Basically the movie gives a different view of Gacy showing his life and the events that led to his capture. The movie wasn’t slow, hospital and not boring it was just eh. It was missing something the actors played their roles very well especially Mark Holton as Gacy. I think the direction and maybe the script needed some work. There was no suspense or anticipation. I really didn’t care either way if he killed anyone else or that he was going to get captured.

I think the movie’s focus was how teenage boys who get beaten by their dad or can’t communicate with their parents either become gay or serial killers. Cause the first scene was a teenage Gacy getting beaten up by his father on a fishing trip,. Then later in the movie you see him having heart to heart talks with teenage boys telling them to talk with their dads and that their parents love them and during these scenes you actually see him some what emotional.

So if you are into serial killers watch it, if you aren’t dont bother its not worth it.
I saw the movie Gacy about the serial killer John Wayne Gacy. This movie is indie and shows it in the filming. I think it was a intentional to make it feel that it was set in the 70s.

Basically the movie gives a different view of Gacy showing his life and the events that led to his capture. The movie wasn’t slow, hospital and not boring it was just eh. It was missing something the actors played their roles very well especially Mark Holton as Gacy. I think the direction and maybe the script needed some work. There was no suspense or anticipation. I really didn’t care either way if he killed anyone else or that he was going to get captured.

I think the movie’s focus was how teenage boys who get beaten by their dad or can’t communicate with their parents either become gay or serial killers. Cause the first scene was a teenage Gacy getting beaten up by his father on a fishing trip,. Then later in the movie you see him having heart to heart talks with teenage boys telling them to talk with their dads and that their parents love them and during these scenes you actually see him some what emotional.

So if you are into serial killers watch it, if you aren’t dont bother its not worth it.
MSNBC have an article
How to get that perfect shave. Telling people the way to shave. It was pretty ok, sickness
nothign new or amsuing, but what got to me is how much people in America pay for a barber shave is from $50-$100. Thats insane!

I myself only shave at the barbers, I dont have a shaving kit at home, (which is why sometimes I have a good growth of hair cause I dont have time to go get a shave) and just pay from 500fils to 1Kd.

I know of other barbers that will give you the full treatment of massage, hair removal from ears and cheak bones and even a facail scrub and all for 5kd.

Americans must have forgotten how to pamper themselves and just allowed themselves to get ripped of when they do.
Talking to Mark on MSN and he mentioned that I should rent a movie:

Mark says:
rent the movie home alone
Nibaq says:
rent a movie?
Mark says:
yeah forgot

I remember back in the 80s going to Video Club in Salmiya and roaming around their shelves and shelves of videos looking for something to rent, capsule picking out movies by name, or just trying to finish a whole shelf. Even in the US going to Blockbuster or Hollywood Video, or one of the indie ones just roaming the rows looking for a movie. It was just an experience on its own roaming and hoping you can think of a movie to rent then hoping that it is still there.

In Kuwait now we just go to Hawalli look at books, pick out a movie, question the guy on it’s quality, have him swear that it is perfect copy and no problems, wait 10 minutes for them to bring it, take it home and see that its not perfect like movie stopping halfway through, or its a cam job and not a DVD copy. Then saying damn that guy and swearing never to buy from him again and going to return the movie. Then just saying screw it and do something else.

Sadly that doesn’t sound as entertaining. I think the rental business will do good in Kuwait, have a flat rate payment. Like NetFlix and even home delivery like Kozmo used to do. People can sit at home get online order a movie maybe have some cross promotional thing with fast food places for special deals. Within 15 minutes you have the movie, and the food you ordered.

Then you return it when you feel like it, but like NetFlix your only allowed 3 at a time. The movie was perfect, you got food and didn’t leave your house to deal with Hawalli or the bad copies you might get.

I think it would be a very viable business. The only hitch that I would see is the censorship and stuff. I am sure there can be work arounds with that by having 18 and up policy.

Update
One other thing that comes to mind is that in Hawalli you never find classic movies, only recent ones. So with the rental shop you can have an archive of movies and serve a wide variety of tastes.
I was with some friend earlier in the night and we drove to Apple Bees by going on the 2nd ring road. Since I was driving I decided to bust out Connie and do some war driving. I didn’t find anything on that road expect RoRo.

I found RoRo on the traffic light between Qadsia and Yarmouk Mansouriya. I didn’t have time to connect to it since the light turned green. Later when we reached the 2nd Ring and Istiqlal Highway I found RoRo again and with a very strong signal. So I connected and found it was a computer to computer connection. It just confused me a signal that strong came was from Qadsia to Dasman. I think it could have been another laptop or even a PDA that was in the car next to me. I am going to be going on that road again later to see if I can find it.
I saw the movie Gacy about the serial killer John Wayne Gacy. This movie is indie and shows it in the filming. I think it was a intentional to make it feel that it was set in the 70s.

Basically the movie gives a different view of Gacy showing his life and the events that led to his capture. The movie wasn’t slow, hospital and not boring it was just eh. It was missing something the actors played their roles very well especially Mark Holton as Gacy. I think the direction and maybe the script needed some work. There was no suspense or anticipation. I really didn’t care either way if he killed anyone else or that he was going to get captured.

I think the movie’s focus was how teenage boys who get beaten by their dad or can’t communicate with their parents either become gay or serial killers. Cause the first scene was a teenage Gacy getting beaten up by his father on a fishing trip,. Then later in the movie you see him having heart to heart talks with teenage boys telling them to talk with their dads and that their parents love them and during these scenes you actually see him some what emotional.

So if you are into serial killers watch it, if you aren’t dont bother its not worth it.
I saw the movie Gacy about the serial killer John Wayne Gacy. This movie is indie and shows it in the filming. I think it was a intentional to make it feel that it was set in the 70s.

Basically the movie gives a different view of Gacy showing his life and the events that led to his capture. The movie wasn’t slow, hospital and not boring it was just eh. It was missing something the actors played their roles very well especially Mark Holton as Gacy. I think the direction and maybe the script needed some work. There was no suspense or anticipation. I really didn’t care either way if he killed anyone else or that he was going to get captured.

I think the movie’s focus was how teenage boys who get beaten by their dad or can’t communicate with their parents either become gay or serial killers. Cause the first scene was a teenage Gacy getting beaten up by his father on a fishing trip,. Then later in the movie you see him having heart to heart talks with teenage boys telling them to talk with their dads and that their parents love them and during these scenes you actually see him some what emotional.

So if you are into serial killers watch it, if you aren’t dont bother its not worth it.
MSNBC have an article
How to get that perfect shave. Telling people the way to shave. It was pretty ok, sickness
nothign new or amsuing, but what got to me is how much people in America pay for a barber shave is from $50-$100. Thats insane!

I myself only shave at the barbers, I dont have a shaving kit at home, (which is why sometimes I have a good growth of hair cause I dont have time to go get a shave) and just pay from 500fils to 1Kd.

I know of other barbers that will give you the full treatment of massage, hair removal from ears and cheak bones and even a facail scrub and all for 5kd.

Americans must have forgotten how to pamper themselves and just allowed themselves to get ripped of when they do.
Talking to Mark on MSN and he mentioned that I should rent a movie:

Mark says:
rent the movie home alone
Nibaq says:
rent a movie?
Mark says:
yeah forgot

I remember back in the 80s going to Video Club in Salmiya and roaming around their shelves and shelves of videos looking for something to rent, capsule picking out movies by name, or just trying to finish a whole shelf. Even in the US going to Blockbuster or Hollywood Video, or one of the indie ones just roaming the rows looking for a movie. It was just an experience on its own roaming and hoping you can think of a movie to rent then hoping that it is still there.

In Kuwait now we just go to Hawalli look at books, pick out a movie, question the guy on it’s quality, have him swear that it is perfect copy and no problems, wait 10 minutes for them to bring it, take it home and see that its not perfect like movie stopping halfway through, or its a cam job and not a DVD copy. Then saying damn that guy and swearing never to buy from him again and going to return the movie. Then just saying screw it and do something else.

Sadly that doesn’t sound as entertaining. I think the rental business will do good in Kuwait, have a flat rate payment. Like NetFlix and even home delivery like Kozmo used to do. People can sit at home get online order a movie maybe have some cross promotional thing with fast food places for special deals. Within 15 minutes you have the movie, and the food you ordered.

Then you return it when you feel like it, but like NetFlix your only allowed 3 at a time. The movie was perfect, you got food and didn’t leave your house to deal with Hawalli or the bad copies you might get.

I think it would be a very viable business. The only hitch that I would see is the censorship and stuff. I am sure there can be work arounds with that by having 18 and up policy.

Update
One other thing that comes to mind is that in Hawalli you never find classic movies, only recent ones. So with the rental shop you can have an archive of movies and serve a wide variety of tastes.
Just last week MTC spent $3.32 billion on its Africa expansion and it had people in diwaniyas and family lunches going “wtf”. Saying how MTC revenue in Kuwait doesn’t even equal all those networks in Africa generate. I tell you know whatI told them then, contagion give them 5 years and Kuwait won’t even equal 10% of the Africa revenue.

You see Africa is growing like crazy, and people dont notice it cause of its size and the many litter wars that occur there. One area that it will grow in is communication. Since they dont have wires there, the Belgiums and other Europeans sucked all the copper out of there and just left them with their drums.

So now those drums are 3G+ wireless networks. Africa will have one of the fastest and more powerful networks in the world. They are going to start fresh and go with what is the latest tech. Also with this tech they are going to have some pretty damn cool phones and I can’t wait to see what they are going to create with them.
I was with some friend earlier in the night and we drove to Apple Bees by going on the 2nd ring road. Since I was driving I decided to bust out Connie and do some war driving. I didn’t find anything on that road expect RoRo.

I found RoRo on the traffic light between Qadsia and Yarmouk Mansouriya. I didn’t have time to connect to it since the light turned green. Later when we reached the 2nd Ring and Istiqlal Highway I found RoRo again and with a very strong signal. So I connected and found it was a computer to computer connection. It just confused me a signal that strong came was from Qadsia to Dasman. I think it could have been another laptop or even a PDA that was in the car next to me. I am going to be going on that road again later to see if I can find it.
I saw the movie Gacy about the serial killer John Wayne Gacy. This movie is indie and shows it in the filming. I think it was a intentional to make it feel that it was set in the 70s.

Basically the movie gives a different view of Gacy showing his life and the events that led to his capture. The movie wasn’t slow, hospital and not boring it was just eh. It was missing something the actors played their roles very well especially Mark Holton as Gacy. I think the direction and maybe the script needed some work. There was no suspense or anticipation. I really didn’t care either way if he killed anyone else or that he was going to get captured.

I think the movie’s focus was how teenage boys who get beaten by their dad or can’t communicate with their parents either become gay or serial killers. Cause the first scene was a teenage Gacy getting beaten up by his father on a fishing trip,. Then later in the movie you see him having heart to heart talks with teenage boys telling them to talk with their dads and that their parents love them and during these scenes you actually see him some what emotional.

So if you are into serial killers watch it, if you aren’t dont bother its not worth it.
I saw the movie Gacy about the serial killer John Wayne Gacy. This movie is indie and shows it in the filming. I think it was a intentional to make it feel that it was set in the 70s.

Basically the movie gives a different view of Gacy showing his life and the events that led to his capture. The movie wasn’t slow, hospital and not boring it was just eh. It was missing something the actors played their roles very well especially Mark Holton as Gacy. I think the direction and maybe the script needed some work. There was no suspense or anticipation. I really didn’t care either way if he killed anyone else or that he was going to get captured.

I think the movie’s focus was how teenage boys who get beaten by their dad or can’t communicate with their parents either become gay or serial killers. Cause the first scene was a teenage Gacy getting beaten up by his father on a fishing trip,. Then later in the movie you see him having heart to heart talks with teenage boys telling them to talk with their dads and that their parents love them and during these scenes you actually see him some what emotional.

So if you are into serial killers watch it, if you aren’t dont bother its not worth it.
MSNBC have an article
How to get that perfect shave. Telling people the way to shave. It was pretty ok, sickness
nothign new or amsuing, but what got to me is how much people in America pay for a barber shave is from $50-$100. Thats insane!

I myself only shave at the barbers, I dont have a shaving kit at home, (which is why sometimes I have a good growth of hair cause I dont have time to go get a shave) and just pay from 500fils to 1Kd.

I know of other barbers that will give you the full treatment of massage, hair removal from ears and cheak bones and even a facail scrub and all for 5kd.

Americans must have forgotten how to pamper themselves and just allowed themselves to get ripped of when they do.
Talking to Mark on MSN and he mentioned that I should rent a movie:

Mark says:
rent the movie home alone
Nibaq says:
rent a movie?
Mark says:
yeah forgot

I remember back in the 80s going to Video Club in Salmiya and roaming around their shelves and shelves of videos looking for something to rent, capsule picking out movies by name, or just trying to finish a whole shelf. Even in the US going to Blockbuster or Hollywood Video, or one of the indie ones just roaming the rows looking for a movie. It was just an experience on its own roaming and hoping you can think of a movie to rent then hoping that it is still there.

In Kuwait now we just go to Hawalli look at books, pick out a movie, question the guy on it’s quality, have him swear that it is perfect copy and no problems, wait 10 minutes for them to bring it, take it home and see that its not perfect like movie stopping halfway through, or its a cam job and not a DVD copy. Then saying damn that guy and swearing never to buy from him again and going to return the movie. Then just saying screw it and do something else.

Sadly that doesn’t sound as entertaining. I think the rental business will do good in Kuwait, have a flat rate payment. Like NetFlix and even home delivery like Kozmo used to do. People can sit at home get online order a movie maybe have some cross promotional thing with fast food places for special deals. Within 15 minutes you have the movie, and the food you ordered.

Then you return it when you feel like it, but like NetFlix your only allowed 3 at a time. The movie was perfect, you got food and didn’t leave your house to deal with Hawalli or the bad copies you might get.

I think it would be a very viable business. The only hitch that I would see is the censorship and stuff. I am sure there can be work arounds with that by having 18 and up policy.

Update
One other thing that comes to mind is that in Hawalli you never find classic movies, only recent ones. So with the rental shop you can have an archive of movies and serve a wide variety of tastes.
Just last week MTC spent $3.32 billion on its Africa expansion and it had people in diwaniyas and family lunches going “wtf”. Saying how MTC revenue in Kuwait doesn’t even equal all those networks in Africa generate. I tell you know whatI told them then, contagion give them 5 years and Kuwait won’t even equal 10% of the Africa revenue.

You see Africa is growing like crazy, and people dont notice it cause of its size and the many litter wars that occur there. One area that it will grow in is communication. Since they dont have wires there, the Belgiums and other Europeans sucked all the copper out of there and just left them with their drums.

So now those drums are 3G+ wireless networks. Africa will have one of the fastest and more powerful networks in the world. They are going to start fresh and go with what is the latest tech. Also with this tech they are going to have some pretty damn cool phones and I can’t wait to see what they are going to create with them.
You know how in Kuwait you have a street with all the phone stores, anabolics or a street with kitchen tiles, men’s health or textiles etc . And just scratch your head an wonder why dont they seperate from each other and avoid the competition.

Well what they are doing is actually a documented economic law called Hotelling’s law. The best part of this law is that with all these shops adn competition the consumer loses because it “results in less variety for the consumer”.

So something to think about when you go buy a new phone, car or anything else in Kuwait. It made be cheaper but your choices are less.

5 thoughts on “Dont Mind Them They are Just Proving Hotelling’s Law”

  1. ok i am a bit confused with this observation on wiki.

    basically i understood by moving into the middle of the street, they both get half the market share. by moving down a quarter of the street they lose some share but they serve more variety.

    but in kuwait its like 1 street, and all the shops from one end to another all sell phones. so how does the share get divided here?

    Also what if they are 2 shops, with the same products but one sells stuff for cheaper. wouldnt the shop that sells cheaper get more share?

    say they both offer the same products and same prices. but, one of the stores offers better customer service. in the long run wouldnt the store with the better service capture a larger share?

    so if this is the case then the shops do not want to be clones. each shop still wants to win a larger share so each store tries to bring something the other doesnt have or sell stuff cheaper or offer better service. competition is stronger now since they are surrounded by other stores that sell the same thing. competition is good for us.

    one example of this is Rehab complex. there are like 30 stores that sell video games, but only 2 are the most popular by far. Both these stores are known to bring items the first into the market, and both have different specialiaties. one guy only sells originals and also sells gameguides and rare limited edition items. The other store has a large collection of pirated games and is known for his clean copies.

    So these 2 store are getting the majority of the share. doesnt this contradict with Hotelling’s law?

    I am confused.

  2. In the wki page it mention JetBlue who does a different service but still flies out of the same airports, and has the same schedule as other airlines.

    Same with those shops. They do offer something extra and special, but comapred to other shops they also sell video games. So when a kid goes in looking for Super Fighter XYZ he doesn’t care where he gets it from will go to any shop he sees and asks about the price. If he likes the price he buys it. I think only a small number really want those rare items cause they cost to much and they have their clients.

    I myself if I went there wouldn’t know which 2 shops you talked about and like Muscati, would go to the one where I can finish my business the quickest.

    If the shops were selling a special item that needed customer service or after market support it would be different. Video games like Pepsi is a commodity now. You dont care who sells it but want it the cheapest and fastest.

  3. in the name of purgatory, you misspelled “and.” :p

    No they’re not contradicting Hotelling’s Law. By Hotellings Law, shops falling under the same category and class (like all the other ‘nothing special’ shops in rehab) will end up having to split their share among eachother.

    Hypothetically, let’s say there’s only 2 video game shops in Kuwait, both in Kuwait City (hypothetical middle of Kuwait), they will theoretically both sell the same video games and peripherals at identical prices.

    Now let’s say these two shops split up, one opening in Farwaniya and the other in Shamiya/Thahiat Abdulla Al Salem. The first one will cater to the Farwaniya market, HYPOTHETICALLY, sell more pirated games, modchips, and older consoles, and the latter will start selling newer consoles, more original games, and more peripherals.

    This way, a consumer living in Surra will have more options, he can either go to Farwaniya to buy a pirated game for his younger brother, or go to Shamiya for a game thats impossible to pirate or a special controller.

    If the shops were stuck together, they will only sell what most (not all) people want. If they were split, they would be able to specialize and sell things that their primary customers want.
    Hope this clears it up :p

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